In this dialogue, Wang Hui explains his writing of The Rise of Modern Chinese Thought, especially how he started from Lu Xun studies to the research of Chinese intellectual history. He interprets the connotations and meanings of the thesis he raised in this four-volume book around topics covered by each volume, titled repectively, “Principle and Things,” “Empire and Nation-State,” “Gongli and Anti-Gongli,” and “The Community of Scientific Discourse,” as well as argues for his methodology of “liberating the objects.”

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